March 31, 2011

Seeing Like A Troll

Last week I made a video response, sort of, to Muertos who issued a challenge to the Zeitgeist community by demanding that 'we' should read a book called 'Seeing Like A State' by professor James Scott in order to have a formal debate with him. The book itself is a critique against implementing technology on a large scale and central planning, which Scott calls 'high-modernism.' (In case you're wondering I am reading the book at the moment.) My video response was also heavily influenced by comedy since from what I've seen Muertos post on a number of forums and blogs, he's in no position to be taken seriously.

Scott's book is also the latest attempt by Muertos in persuading the Zeitgeist folks to let go of their ideology. That's because at some level Muertos can't stand that kind of ideology because it conflicts with his own. Of course, like many critics he doesn't let this be known. First we Zeitgeist supporters were a bunch of conspiracy theorists, based on the first Zeitgeist film which had nothing to do with the later Venus Project. Next we don't support charity, which is false, and after that we became cult members. Safe to say it has been a constant avalanche of critique. That's one thing, but another thing which leads to not taking him seriously is this;

Above was a message on the Conspiracy Science forums. Muertos dropped down his guard and admits why he's doing the things he does; 'to abuse and ridicule Zeitgeist members.' Clearly he has no intent in discussing matters in a civilized debate. In the back of his mind he already decided that Zeitgeist and the Venus Project should go the way of the dinosaurs. As such no one should feel obligated to meet any of his demands since they are insincere to begin with. It's typical trolling behavior. He was also waiting for some people to fail in meeting his demands so he could lash out in return.

In my interactions with him I also detected that he has a habit of generalizing. If someone adheres to a (conspiracy) theory surrounding 9/11 then the whole Zeitgeist Movement are a bunch of conspiracy theorists, omitting of course that some folks don't support the theory, don't care or have moved on already. His latest attempt in marginalizing a group of people and making them seem inadequate or disloyal is to refer to them as cult members. A favorite troll tactic. Quite funny actually since not so long ago Muertos stated that it was not a cult. Using the term cult is of course derogatory and intentional at that.
The Zeitgeist Movement advocates to use the scientific method for social concern, not religion. But these are of course semantics for someone whose only objective is to marginalize and discredit that which they don't agree with.

March 27, 2011


I've been using a Mac computer for years now. Back in the early nineties a friend infected me with the Mac virus by loaning me his spare Mac Performa and I've been hooked ever since. It's user-friendlyness and outstanding designs is what did for me. Macs have always been slightly pricier than normal pc's but that didn't bother me. Bought an iMac back in '99, an eMac some 5 years later and just over 2 years back I bought an iMac desktop computer with a 2.6 Ghz processor. Safe to say I'm a Mac fan and overall I can't complain that much.

Last year I bought a camcorder to get into the whole filming thing. Great fun and Mac has standard software on the computer to cope with different film formats. The program is called iMovie (have version '08). Works as you would expect. Plug the camera in and it practically automatically downloads itself. No beef there. Subsequently I've been using iMovie for some time and despite its pro's I noticed it also has some drawbacks. One of the great features of iMovie is that you can download directly to YouTube, something to keep in mind. Don't get me wrong, it has some great features but the more you want to expand the sooner you'll notice its restrictions.

You can't put that much text in a video, only a couple of sentences in a kind of movie format. A paragraph is not possible. Special video effects are largely non-existent as well. In short, text and effects are limited. There's a new version out now, iMovie '11 which is part of iLife '11 but from what I've been reading in the reviews the same limitations are still there. iMovie '11 upgrade or iLife '11 for that matter comes with a cost, $13 and $50 respectively. Which I find strange because you'd expect that with newer software the possibilities would be expanded as well. Unfortunately that is not the case with Mac. While the standard software is upgraded, its limitations are kept intact.

So I started to look at other video software that I could use to edit and augment video. Final Cut Express seems to be the next software in line. It has a similar appeal to iMovie but way more complicated. The price complicates as well since FCE goes for a mere $200. I suppose some people say that's worth it but for a starting hobby I don't mind things slowing down a bit in the expenditure department. The reviews by other users are mixed as well. I was startled to find out that FCE doesn't download directly to YouTube like iMovie does. FCE does not give the appearance of a perfect tool. Final Cut Pro, the ultimate video editing software goes for $999. I'm theorizing that the latter does everything you want and more.

My point is that this seems to orchestrated. As a starter you're more or less channeled software-wise to purchase certain goods if you want more. I'm not going to throw away my Mac or anything, it's just something that I noticed. Mac needs to make a profit as a company of course. I thought they were doing well as firm but with profit you seemingly can never get enough off. I guess my enthusiasm for the brand has an opposite effect emotionally-wise when they are streamlining you into buying additional and more expensive software.

March 23, 2011

ZDay 2011 Holland Video

Shot some 75 minutes of footage from ZDay 2011 Holland, in the Kargadoor, Utrecht. Kees and Jos gave presentations followed by closing words from Seth and a Q&A with the aforementioned 3 gentlemen. Some 50+ people showed up which was less then expected I reckon. (Around 20 people failed to show up while they did sign up, don't know what cause of that is.)
The day went well nonetheless. Both Kees and Jos' presentations were well executed, plenty of time between sessions for drinks and a smoke outside. There was also a buffet which I suspect was made by the Jos' wife. In between there was also a workshop where people presented their ideas for the Zeitgeist Movement. The main thrust of the day, which was reiterated by Seth, is that people should become more actively involved because right now the Dutch chapter of the Zeitgeist Movement hinges upon the time and energy of some 15 people and they are pretty much stretched to the max.

Sketchzoid #28

March 20, 2011

Full Moon

Anyone catch the particularly full moon last night? It's as close to Earth as possible in its elliptical orbit. The naked eye can easily detect that it's also much brighter. Tonight you can see it again so go take a look if you can.

March 19, 2011

Bee At Work

My 7 year old Nikon Coolpix can still do the job. Took the shot in 'close up' setting and it turned out just fabulous. For close up shots you don't need a big lens or expensive camera. Just some friendly advice.

March 18, 2011

ZDay Celebs

My oh my. Seems like Zeitgeist Moving Forward has even captivated the imagination of a few celebrities. Brandon Boyd, singer of the band Incubus was at Zeitgeist Day in Los Angeles. Another celeb who was there was Michelle Rodriguez who starred in a number of movies such as Avatar. You can find more information (and videos) on the YouTube channel VenusAsABoyFilms.

March 15, 2011

ZDay 2011 Holland Pictures 2

Pictures from ZDay, the Kargadoor, Utrecht, Holland.

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ZDay 2011 Holland Pictures 1

Pictures from ZDay, the Kargadoor, Utrecht, Holland.

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March 11, 2011


Another bulbous plant and springtime bloomer is the crocus. Always a nice addition to one's garden and if you plant them for the first time in the fall practically all of them bloom in early spring. Over time though, just like tulips, they tend to get less and most of them make only leafs. Around 10 years ago I planted around 150 of them (yellow/white/blue) but nowadays only 20 to 30 bloom each year. Still, it's a great plant for the garden.

Sketchzoid #27

March 9, 2011


"To the Zeitgeist Movement
A hierarchical stratified society is nothing but the result of a natural phenomenon, that natural phenomenon which I have coined as "Mental Darwinism" is the result of mental, intellectual differences among individuals with some mentally better suited than others. Therefore an "Elite" is practically impossible to eliminate without subduing the human mind. That is exactly what this Zeitgeist movement is attempting to do, the creation of an "Altruist egalitarian utopia" in which the best mentally fitted is no different than an idiot and must not be rewarded for his mental ability, but instead brought to the level of the crowd for whom he must work on humanitarian grounds at the expense of the incompetence of his neighbor. Quote "Success must not be rewarded with material gains, but with the satisfaction of social contribution" (TZM). That is altruism in which you place the interests of others above your own and you sacrifice for your incompetent neighbor.

The Zeitgeist movement goes against nature, nature dictates that only the strongest survives and in our contemporary society only the smartest succeed leaving behind the ungifted. In the Zeitgeist "Altruist Egalitarian Utopia" anybody can simply say, "I'm not smart, I'm lazy, why work and think if my brother who is mentally competent can do the thinking and working for me, anyways he is the gifted not me, therefore he should work for me and I should just wait to use the fruits of his mind" Zeitgeist goes against nature itself, the capitalist society in which we live is the best socio-economic structure that obeys the dictates of nature itself. Somebody once said "He who wants to live let him fight, and he who does not want to fight does not deserve to live" Let the incompetent bastards perish and the competent individuals who can think succeed for that is nature and not the gain of the incompetent at the expense of the competent.

Unfortunate children of Africa and the World
As a believer in reason, I assume that every living human being has the capability to create rational decisions and produce rational thinking. A person who for the lack of ability finds himself in a particular socioeconomic position in which he cannot afford to provide himself with the most basic utilities for the sustainability of life, irrationally decides to procreate and raise a family instead of procuring a method to ameliorate his situation in order to provide and raise his family in descent environment with a promising future. The victims of his lack of rational thinking are his descendants who grow up in a miserable environment like the children in Africa whose misery and hunger was triggered by nobody but their parents who made the irrational decision to procreate before assuring the future well being of the consequences of their actions."

Once in a while you come across some truly amazing (and shocking) comments. The commentary above was made by a person on the official TZM YouTube channel and he's a critic of the movie Zeitgeist Moving Forward as is plain to see. The reasoning behind the critique is fascinating to see, from a psychological perspective mind you. I couldn't disagree more with this person. His ideology is there for everyone to detect although he does try to camouflage it. Looking at his YouTube profile was only a confirmation of what I already strongly suspected. Go take a look.

March 7, 2011

Beyond Copycatism II

Last week I did a blog on Samuel Gilonis, an outspoken critic of the Zeitgeist Movement, who felt it necessary to label the movement as a cult and Jacque Fresco as a racist. The reason why I titled the blog 'beyond copycatism' is because it was obvious to me that types of critique were simply copied from other sources. These sources do the exact same thing and employ a certain tactic so it's a no-brainer as to where the author got his inspiration. His next article which is a reply to Peter Joseph's commentary to the first article is named "Damn Everything But The Circus! A Response To Peter Joseph."

I have no problem with people trying to defend their arguments as long as they do it in a civil fashion. Sadly, some persons don't seem to realize that you can be offensive without using a single curse word. Degrading a person or group will have the same effect. Samuel Gilonis does this although it's a matter of debate whether he's aware of his own actions because right of the dot he insinuates that an entire group of people have fallen victim to sectarian beliefs, yet then wonders why some of them come over to his article to write criticizing replies. Here's a clue Sam, people felt offended. But either he's not aware of the result of his own actions or he's fully aware and milking the situation for what it's worth.

Gilonis also finally reveals his source of information/inspiration: 'Conspiracy Science.' Well, you can wonder if I saw that one coming. The Conspiracy Science blog and forums have been a meeting place for Zeitgeist critics for a few years now and their main task seems to be generating critique for critique's sake. While I believe that some of them genuinely oppose conspiracy theories on that website and as a matter of principal I can understand that, on the flip side that place consists of a number of folks who simply have an ax to grind with Zeitgeist primarily for personal reasons. In other words, the intentions and motivations of Conspiracy Science differ greatly, some having malicious intent.

There a number of contributors there who were banned from the Zeitgeist forums, often for misconduct. It's quite fascinating actually from a sociological point of view. They go to virtual public place thinking they can say and do anything, bully others into submission. Next they get removed from that public place and instead of examining their own actions they blame the people that threw them out. Next they start blogs criticizing Zeitgeist, create anonymous YouTube channels or contribute on forums already generally in line with their agenda and start claiming another group of people are a cult - just to get even with them. Such people aren't actually critics, they are fail-mongers.

If Samuel Gilonis wants to emulate that behavior he's free to do so, freedom of speech and all, but don't count on getting intellectual credit for employing this tactic. Wanting something to fail is entirely different than objectively pointing out its flaws. Don't forget that some people can tell the difference.

March 6, 2011

Dutch Shade

Strange things going in Libya in relation to my own country Holland. Turns out that last weekend a Dutch Navy helicopter was seized in Libya while they were evacuating one Dutch national and another (undisclosed) European person. Conveniently, this news came out after the elections on wednesday here in Holland, meaning the current government thought it would be best to sit on this news till after the elections for fear of losing votes. That's one aspect. The mission itself also raises question marks. While dictator Gaddafi unjustly rules the nation normal procedure is that permission is asked to enter another nation's airspace. This was not done.

While I carry no sympathy for Gaddafi and hope he's gone yesterday, the fact of the matter is that technically he's correct by detaining the helicopter and its crew. If a Libyan helicopter would land in a remote area of Holland or the U.S. for that matter and picked up people, the exact same procedure would be going on right now and it would be headline news. The question remains why the Dutch government felt it was absolutely necessary to pick up these 2 individuals and blatantly disregard international rules. While the country is in turmoil, the Dutch embassy and other consuls are still in operation. Other solutions could still have been considered. What was so important to get these 2 people out in a hurry?

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte authorized the mission but he remains tightlipped. Here is his comment.
"As long as I think that it is better for the process to get the three soldiers back safe that I and the government keep our mouths shut, then that long we will keep our mouths shut."
While it can be considered true that (backdoor) diplomacy is the best coarse of action here, it's only half of the story. Clearly the Prime Minister made a huge error in judgement and has to face the consequences. By insisting on secrecy and the wellbeing of the 3 captured Navy personnel he's also restricting the truth about what part he had played in all of this. The other half of the story is that Rutte is basically covering his behind. There are a lot of things going on which still hasn't seen the light of day.

Just this morning I read on a newspaper website that a number of British commando's and a British diplomat have been detained in eastern Libya by rebel forces. That also begs the question; 'what were they doing there?'

March 2, 2011

Beyond Copycatism

"Jaques Fresco, pioneer of The Venus Project, ideological forefather to Peter Joseph and former member of the Ku Klux Klan."

As is written by Samuel Gilonis, a university student in journalism (if I'm not mistaken) judging from the comments on his article 'the cult of Zeitgeist.' It's absolutely fascinating to see how a person can approach a certain ideology by not addressing the finer points it makes but by taking (questionable) items and twist them towards negative conclusions. For the uninitiated, this is what happens quite often in regards to the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement. People see an ideology that conflicts on some level with their own and subsequently they reason to such an extent that they find grounds for dismissal, and thus protecting their own view of the world or ideology.

To be fair, the author did try to camouflage his assertion, all be it very poorly, that Jacque Fresco was an ardent follower of the Ku Klux Klan. His final analysis however leads him to conclude that at the very least Fresco tells tall tales. Jacque Fresco tells about that episode in his life here. Me? I take it as anecdotal. I have no reason to believe Jacque Fresco is a racist. His speech about many subjects doesn't point to that direction, quite the contrary. In the grander scheme of things, how does this episode - Fresco's affiliation with 'the Klan' - really matter? In my opinion, the author wants to see some negativity here. The title of his article also rehashes the favorite detractors slogan: 'Zeitgeist is a cult.'

Which speaks volumes for psychology itself, when you really think about it. Here you have an organization, the Zeitgeist Movement with half a million members worldwide, activist arm of the Venus Project, that advocates using science and technology for social concern (not religion), and we are thrown in the mixer to look like the Jim Jones sect. This isn't simply going from A to B, this is going from A to Z through the obstructed maze that is ones mind. Mental barriers seemingly deflect and garble the original message.

"At one point in the film Joseph adopts mock indignation at how people could possibly brand his doctrine communism or socialism."

Yes, that scene can be found right here. The ultimate irony is that it fits the bill smack-dead on in how some people approach the movie or how they 'translate' the message. Samuel Gilonis could have billboarded that section seeing how his comments culminate in the same type of frenzy. He proceeds in the "ism" direction although the movie clearly states that we should move beyond any "ism" and embrace life value analysis. Move away from inequality in any way, shape or form and focus on the necessities of life itself because everything else divides us. Is that really cultish or is it a holistic approach for the welfare of the planet and everyone on it? Sam, oddly enough we are not about establishing a new Politburo or any kind of fascist NWO state. We are about freedom, equality and wising up as a species.

"Whatever way you cut it – this is utopianism."

You moron Utopianist. That's what it boils down to and that's what Peter Joseph highlighted in the movie Zeitgeist Moving Forward. We are disillusioned somehow, for not accepting the world as it is and for wanting something better. It is in fact harmful according to Gilonis because that quest for betterment leads to situations like in Stalin's Russia or Mao's China. We go in the mental mixer and we are back to communism again. We conveniently forget all the hardships capitalism brought and we focus on a negative mentally contrived concoction.

It comes down to psychology and ideology. Samuel Gilonis proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt by making associations in his mind and projecting fear and failure should we adopt something like the Venus Project. Maybe the most remarkable thing here is the wide range of perceptions. Some see the ultimate worst and some see great potential but we are basically arguing over something that is not a reality. I think both sides can agree that wanting to improve our world is a noble endeavor no matter what ideology you might possess.

March 1, 2011

Jerusalem UFO 2011

I've always found the subject of UFOs fascinating and the video taken in Jerusalem in the beginning of this year is one of the best footage I've ever seen. Not sticking my hands in fire that this is absolute proof or 100% genuine because as of this writing I don't know all the details and there are also some talented people behind their computers who could fake such footage. Having said that I'm very impressed because the reactions of people near the camera seem to be genuine and there appears to be video from other people in different locations filming the exact same thing. Here are some screenshots of the event.

Above is a light that hovers over the Doom of the rock Temple mount in Jerusalem. The video in the previous link above is taken relatively close by, this footage however is taken from a distance and you can see a 'star-like' object descending into place. Again the people react to the events taking place.

There is also a bright flash before the apparent UFO departs, which I tried to capture with the screenshots above. The place lights up like a giant piece of fireworks. I'd imagine that's a hard thing to fake using CGI. It's not impossible but I reckon you would need 'Hollywood quality' to do it, meaning lots of money in order to hire a company like Pixar.

Above is a frame of the object departing straight up at high speed. It's out of the frame within a split second. If the footage is real than this is something truly remarkable. There's another video here which seems to be taken still closer to the event but the quality seems poorer. The object is strangely out of focus and no flash is detectable. Could be that the camcorder is from the cheaper price range and having less pixels. (Having owned 2 camcorders so far I can tell you that a cheap one has great difficulty focusing at night.) In the last video the commentary by some American elderly folks does seem genuine. CBS did a news piece on it as well. Amazing stuff. Lastly there a video here that combines all the different footage.

Constitution Version 2.0

Constitution Version 2.0: "Of the Banks, By the Banks and For the Banks"

We the (People) Giant Corporations of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect (Union) Pig Trough, establish (Justice) Perpetual Bailouts, insure domestic (Tranquility) Passivity, provide for the common (defense) Bewilderment, promote the general (Welfare) Sense of Cynicism and Helplessness, and secure the Blessings of (Liberty) Socialism for the Rich to ourselves and our (Posterity) Key Executives, do ordain and establish this Constitution Version 2.0 for the United States of America ...

Of the banks, by the banks and for the banks.

On a related note, a reader sent me the following:

If the Declaration were written today, how would Jefferson phrase it? A reader speculates . . .





When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for the people to renounce the political bands which have connected them with their government, and to reclaim among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to that renunciation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of the American people; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to renounce the conduct of their Government. The history of the present Government of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over its People. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

You have abused the electoral system to guarantee returns for incumbents, and allowed our elections to become advertising campaigns controlled by Monied Interests.
You have ceased to write our Nation’s Laws, allowing them to be written instead by those same Monied Interests that finance your election campaigns.
You have ceased to publicly debate or even read, before enacting, the Laws that Monied Interests write for you.

You have abdicated your responsibility to declare War and secure Peace.

You have saddled the People with the Gambling Debts of the Wall Street Bankers, and in so doing thrown our Nation into Bankruptcy.


Ninety-eight per cent of Congressional seats are now held by incumbents; a percentage matched only by fraudulent democracies and de facto tyrannies like the former Soviet Union. Those seats are controlled by Special Monied Interests that run our political system, write our laws in their own interests, exchange the Rights of our People for the Privileges of the Oligarchy, and saddle us with Perpetual War.


You have violated the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable Search and Seizure, and issued Warrants without Probable Cause.

You have violated the Fifth Amendment guarantee of due process of law, targeting your own citizens for extra-legal assassination.

You have violated the Sixth Amendment guarantee of a public Trial by Jury.

You have violated the Eighth Amendment guarantee prohibiting Cruel and Unusual Punishment with a reign of Torture.

You have saddled the People with the Expense of maintaining in Peacetime a Standing Army of

Two Million Professional and Mercenary Soldiers.

You have built a Thousand Military Bases in 110 Countries Worldwide, and subverted the United States from a Republic to a Military Empire.

You have asserted fraudulent Casus Belli to bend the People’s Will to the Hostile Designs of War.

You have made war on countries--Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan--that pose no threat to the American people and desire no conflict with us.

You have abused the Citizens with Propaganda Campaigns to promote these Wars.

You have allowed the Secret Police Forces of the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and the Military Police to spy upon, arrest, imprison without charges, and torture his own citizens.


You have lied about Iraqi Weaponry, the Perpetrators of the Anthrax Attack, and the Perpetrators of 9/11 [*Note: see statements below from the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and chair of the Joint Inquiry of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees into 9/11, and the 9/11 Commissioners themselves, in this regard]; and used those lies to justify the Desecration of our Rights, and the Fearmongering and Warmongering Campaigns that preceded your Armed Invasion of the Middle East. You have allowed the Military Forces and the Secret Police of this country to wrest control from their Civil Authority, and embark on a campaign of world domination that requires as a corollary the usurpation of the fundamental rights of the Citizens of the United States.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Government whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyranny, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our brethren in Government. We have warned you from time to time of your attempts to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded you that our rights under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are Inalienable. We have appealed to your native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured you by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. You have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold you, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Citizens of the United States of America, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of this Country, solemnly publish and declare, That these Citizens of the United States are, and of Right ought to be Free and Vested in Liberty; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the Government of the United States, and that all political connection between them and the Government, is and ought to be totally dissolved until that Government restores the Rights and Liberties it has unlawfully taken from us; and that as Free and Independent Citizens, we have full Power to create a New Government, and to do all other Acts and Things which Free Citizens may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

* Note: In 2002, Senator Bob Graham - former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and chair of the Joint Inquiry of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees into 9/11 - told PBS:
I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States
Indeed, many 9/11 Commissioners, Congressmen and high-level government officials claim that the 9/11 Commission did not get to the bottom of that heinous terrorist act.

Conspiracy Cat