Showing posts with label Alex Jones. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Alex Jones. Show all posts
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January 29, 2013
YouTube Guerilla Tactics II
Last week a person made a comment to me on a YouTube video concerning Alex Jones and the ludicrous remarks he had against the Zeitgeist Movement. The person went by the handle of AndyMcNabStab and his core disagreement revolves around the first Zeitgeist movie, which has very little to do with the Zeitgeist Movement and should be viewed as a personal performance piece by Peter Joseph. However, some individuals viewed that as an attack on their religious beliefs and subsequently claim that the movement is a New Age "luciferian" propaganda effort aimed at steering people away from God.
It's understandable that people would react after seeing Zeitgeist the Movie. I'm not an atheist and as such I thought the critique directed towards religion was unwise since some people can't help themselves making negative associations when their beliefs are questioned. I also wouldn't stand for any 'dark teachings' should I detect it in the Zeitgeist Movement. However, I haven't seen any. Which in my book makes the claims of this Andy person totally irrelevant. But then again, he wouldn't be the first person to use the religious angle to spout critique while his real argument is something else. Possibly plain economics.
The YouTube channel of this person also has a number of videos of violent video games and where he boasts to have taken out opponents using only a knife. Safe to say that the Biblical 'love thy neighbor' still needs some work with this character. Conclusion; the guy is mostly likely a troll.
What's perhaps most interesting is the number of 'likes' he received. He got 7 likes within a short period of time, and that is highly unlikely on a video that doesn't get that many hits anymore. I asked him the question if he generated those likes himself and he replied in the affirmative, the end justifying the means. No matter how you twist and spin this, this is internet guerilla tactics. If you can generate 7 likes you can also generate 7 dislikes. Not 1 person 1 vote but maximize your influence as you see fit. Voter fraud..
Ironically, people like Andy here would probably also object to stricter regulations on the internet while they have no problem abusing the system themselves. Their conduct shows who they are.
Sadly, this is just one person. Many more circle around videos belonging to the Zeitgeist Movement like vultures, ready to plunge down when they think they see a carcass. But maybe I should take the high ground and close with a sentence from the Bible. "You'll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?" (Matthew 7:16)
It's understandable that people would react after seeing Zeitgeist the Movie. I'm not an atheist and as such I thought the critique directed towards religion was unwise since some people can't help themselves making negative associations when their beliefs are questioned. I also wouldn't stand for any 'dark teachings' should I detect it in the Zeitgeist Movement. However, I haven't seen any. Which in my book makes the claims of this Andy person totally irrelevant. But then again, he wouldn't be the first person to use the religious angle to spout critique while his real argument is something else. Possibly plain economics.
The YouTube channel of this person also has a number of videos of violent video games and where he boasts to have taken out opponents using only a knife. Safe to say that the Biblical 'love thy neighbor' still needs some work with this character. Conclusion; the guy is mostly likely a troll.
What's perhaps most interesting is the number of 'likes' he received. He got 7 likes within a short period of time, and that is highly unlikely on a video that doesn't get that many hits anymore. I asked him the question if he generated those likes himself and he replied in the affirmative, the end justifying the means. No matter how you twist and spin this, this is internet guerilla tactics. If you can generate 7 likes you can also generate 7 dislikes. Not 1 person 1 vote but maximize your influence as you see fit. Voter fraud..
Ironically, people like Andy here would probably also object to stricter regulations on the internet while they have no problem abusing the system themselves. Their conduct shows who they are.
Sadly, this is just one person. Many more circle around videos belonging to the Zeitgeist Movement like vultures, ready to plunge down when they think they see a carcass. But maybe I should take the high ground and close with a sentence from the Bible. "You'll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?" (Matthew 7:16)
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August 25, 2012
Ultra-Con-Hard-On
It seems that after 4 years Alex Jones' hard-on for the Zeitgeist Movement continues. Peter Joseph explains the situation with the Texan conservative, and shows what a disingenuous redneck the guy is.
February 26, 2011
Birds Of A Feather

My last blog was about G. Edward Griffin and the John Birch Society and what I found interesting at the time is that these so-called organizations for freedom are pretty much highly dualistic in nature. While they may be patriotic and for 'freedom' the bottom line is that they are highly capitalistic as well. Organizations such as the John Birch Society are made up of businessmen and are sponsored by the extremely wealthy. NWO fighter Alex Jones, an outright adversary of elitist machinations, flirts with a group that with a little imagination and extrapolation, fits the same bill.
In the picture above you can see the exchange between Jones and John McManus, president of the John Birch Society. I already figured that the philosophy of Jones and the society were pretty much close together, and with a little research I found the article above proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt. What I discovered is that the sought after 'freedom' here also entails the unrestricted quest of financial gain. That's what these gentlemen stand for. The freedom to make a buck at the expense of everything else. That's why they're touting their horns about government restrictions, taxation, evil banks and so on. In the end they simply want more for themselves yet fail to recognize that identical people higher up the pyramid do the exact same thing.
If Jones really gets into bed with people like you find in the John Birch Society, I'm afraid his days of battling the NWO are over (if there ever was such a thing). He'll be put on a (financial) lease and made to walk properly alongside his masters. Maybe that is already the case? I hope people realize that in a highly capitalistic society everyone can be bought and corrupted. Having a lot of wealth and money enables you to have much greater influence on an outcome, and greatly adds in protecting your own interests. Such mechanics are visible here if you can shed your conservative mindset for one minute. In a democracy, a.k.a. 'how do I get my hands on a lot of money,' people think about their own selfish interest first, make no mistake.
Whenever you hear conservatives like Alex Jones, Edward Griffin, John McManus and other folks from the John Birch Society talk about freedom and government interference, you need to keep this in mind and I quote now from commentary John McMurty made in the movie Zeitgeist Moving Forward. Government interference means; 'blocking maximization of turning money into more money for private money possessors.'
November 14, 2010
Socialist Moneybomb

Meet conservative radio talkshow host Alex Jones in his brand new studio, paid for by his fans. The guys at Infowars started something called a 'moneybomb,' raising money for a new project. The aim was $500.000 and that was reached within a month. What's strange for me is that from what I've been reading Jones isn't doing that bad, financially. Sources say he's living the American Dream, big fat house, sports cars, boats - the works. He's also selling a variety of dvd's for 20 bucks a pop, lots of commercials on his show and website. It's safe to say he's earning a lot of money. That begs the question; 'why do the fans have to contribute financially to an already successful business enterprise?'
I mean, isn't that pure socialism? Letting other people pay for your own programs while you apparently have the means yourself. If I'm not mistaken this isn't the first time Jones let his fans pay for new projects. Other fundraisers amounted up to $350.000 and $50.000. Yet when you visit his website you'll find something like this.

Socialism bad! Sucking money from your fans, good! The hypocrisy involved here curls my toes. Conservatives often complain about government interference and taxation, especially the latter is quickly deemed socialism if it means the money is transferred to a healthcare system. That is viewed as distributing wealth and nobody should mess with that. However, if they are socialist enough to send you money while you already have it in abundance, well that's not socialism. Just call them friends and fans and forget about the socialist act they just performed. By the way, Jones is standing in his brand new studio just 2 days after the fundraiser ended. Meaning, he already acquired it before the fundraiser ended.
Told you he already had the means. Only in America!
September 14, 2010
Mental Detritus
Here's the clip where Alex Jones makes the quote that I addressed in a previous post. Hope you can bear watching this video because Jones goes on one of his infamous rants. While AJ stands for personal liberty, one of the things I support, he also has a habit of going on a tantrum and acting like a bully. The guy has such a narrow view and a bare minimum insight in what other people are trying to accomplish that quite often he attacks people that would fall in his own category, the 'freedom fighters.' In the video above he's attacking some journalist if I'm not mistaken.
The thing is, I've seen him do that on several occasions. There are plenty of videos on YouTube. In one of those Jones "party-crashes" a second amendment rally in Texas which was organized by other people. Like a bully he started to dominate the scene and belittle those folks addressing his actions. One woman calmly asked why he was being intrusive also pointing out to him that 'they were on the same team.' Jones, acting like a bully once more, simply brushed it aside. A lot of folks are starting to think that Alex Jones is the 'cointelpro,' since he has a habit of also attacking those folks that are basically with him. It seems Alex Jones is under the impression that he's the only one in possession of the truth. What's the word for that, megalomaniac?
September 3, 2010
Alex Jones - Closet Fascist?
Ran across this YouTube video after visiting the Conspiracy Science forums and it's based on an astounding remark radio show host Alex Jones made. Jones himself can be regarded as a libertarian and a paleoconservative, that's how he also labels himself, but the remarks in this video are so shocking that he can easily be put in the fascist corner. While I disagree with some elements in the video such as the Nazi audio rhetoric in the background and labeling listeners/followers of Infowars as a cult, Jones' comments don't leave much to the imagination. Here's what he says;
In the end when we take over against these people, it's not going to be like Germany where a few hundred of them get put to death folks. We are going to put hundreds of thousands of them in prison. Tens of thousands are going to be executed. You are cancer and you gotta be cut out.
It's difficult to see in what context those words were said when you don't have the entire conversation but having seen a number of videos on YouTube where Jones addresses his key points it's reasonable to assume he talks about the NWO, the alleged current elite bend on dominating the world and enslaving the rest of the planet. I've seen enough of Alex Jones to know that sometimes he gets highly emotional and subsequently says something inappropriately or utterly false. These words however where he recommends deadly force against other people are of such gravity that it becomes a serious matter.
I don't know if Jones retracted this statement or apologized for it but I do hope he realizes that when making such comments he isn't one hair better then the people he claims to fight. When you advocate using force on force, you're advocating war. If Jones really stands for liberty he wouldn't have to make such grave remarks.
April 13, 2010
Silly Jones
Take a look at how silly Alex Jones treats the Zeitgeist Movement. Basically it's just plain sad, if there is a NWO they would surely benefit from liberation movements getting into each others hairs. The fact that Jones totally misses this point and just adds more vitriol, is just plain stupid. Hopefully one day he'll recognize his mistake and retract those mindless debunking comments. I think Zeitgeist and Infowars at the core want the same thing, a better world. In the mean time we can discuss the differences on how to do that like civilized adults.
March 25, 2010
Thoughts On Zeitgeist (4)

As mentioned in previous posts, Zeitgeist has its detractors and understandably so. People with power or a clear advantage will be reluctant to give that away. No country will give up the monetary system when other parts of the world are still connected to it. Still, opposition can come in unexpected ways. After watching Zeitgeist Addendum, arguably the best film, I looked up commentary on YouTube and found an interview between Peter Joseph (the movie director) and radio show host Alex Jones. I had already come across articles and movie clips by Jones, here and there, on other websites. Still I wasn't that acquainted with his work. I did realize he was an activist and '9/11 Truthseeker.' Since the Zeitgeist movie touches upon similar elements I naturally presumed Jones would be positive about the Zeitgeist Movement. That turned out to be quite the pipe dream.
Watching the interview on YouTube my jaw dropped to the floor. Jones verbally attacked Peter Joseph in such an open way that I started to wonder if Jones hadn't planned such a move all along and was just waiting to go on the offensive. Even more shocking was the "work" Jones did after that interview and where he came out with all guns blazing. According to him Zeitgeist was in fact part of the New World Order (NWO), were sun-worshippers, were satanists and followers of Marxism and Communism. When a person makes that many accusations it's best to look at who they are and where they come from.
It always amazes me when people have many things in common yet make such an issue about the differences. So I started looking up other articles, radio shows and visited Jones' website Infowars. Didn't take me long to figure out that although Jones is a political activist who rightly exposes government intrigues and the (corporate) elite, he comes from an entirely different background and ideology then the Zeitgeist Movement. Born and raised in Texas, Jones is a religious (right-wing) conservative. Furthermore he's an isolationist, and his main concern is government interference. (I didn't even have to look up his Wikipedia entry.) There are a number of people in the U.S. whose main concern is the government that messes with their lives. They just want to be left alone and go about their business. From that perspective it's understandable that they would automatically resist ideas promoted by the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project, but if they set aside their fears for just one second, maybe they would detect that Zeitgeist is trying to move beyond those issues.
One of the recurring arguments is that Zeitgeist is Marxism or Communism. I do understand why people who are born and bred in the free market system would say that. Having no property or money would be akin to feeling homeless and powerless. They would also fear that type of government where everything is state controlled. But does the Zeitgeist Movement advocate a new type of government with lets say a politburo? No, they don't. It's about humanity maturing beyond those types of government and where every individual is educated, knows their history and the laws of cause and effect.
I could also turn the argument of Communism around by asking what the current system really is. Isn't the monetary system a type of 'who's the most economically fit?' Isn't it a survival of the fittest? Doesn't the system inherently causes poverty since there are those folks who amass a great deal of wealth? Doesn't the system breed inequality? In the United States there 2 million households who are in fact millionaires, how many inmates does that same country have? Weren't there jobs for those people? Apparently not. What is the current system? Maybe we can also call it for what it is, Economic Fascism.
Calling the Zeitgeist Movement sun-worshippers or satanists is just Jerry Springer type of journalism. It's a method of trying to make the other guy look bad while reinforcing your own (religious) position. Personally I think Alex Jones fears the 'competition' from Zeitgeist and that's why he took so much effort in trying to debunk it. I hope people realize who is making such allegations. What is there kind of ideology. Where do they 'come from.'
In case you're wondering what my political affiliations are, I'm a moderate left. Often I voted for the Dutch Labour Party but these days I wonder about the usefulness of voting because every party seems to exclusively focus on the big money (the monetary system) and even (moderate) socialists in parliament seem to excel in lining their own pockets. I don't have much faith in the current system progressing towards a stable future since the focus is always on money, and people seem to be secondary
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