Billy Meier Vs Other Contactees, Flip Flop

Meier’s statements about contactees can also take a strange turn. Take for example the story of Dan Fry;

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_249
Billy:
What is behind this: Quetzal and Semjase explained to me once that Dan Fry, an American, actually did have contact with extraterrestrials. He is said to have taken photos as well, but he later destroyed them; somebody made forgeries of them and attributed them to Fry. This is supposed to be the reason why none of Dan Fry’s real photos of alien flying objects exist any longer. Even the story about the origin of the extraterrestrials and their accounts was apparently thoroughly distorted. This is what Quetzal told me, but it never appeared in any contact report.
Ptaah:
That is exactly what happened.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424
Ptaah:
…..The Gizeh Intelligences transposed via teleprojection apparent realities with visionary experiences into a few others, like Dan Fry and Schmidt etc., who then considered these as reality…

So according to Meier’s information first Dan Fry’s case was real yet distorted but later on apparently completely false even though Ptaah seemed pretty sure about himself the first time. Lets take a look at the comments on Kenneth Arnold.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_2
Billy:
First of all, I would be interested to know about Kenneth Arnold. Am I correct that he was not a fraud?
Semjase:
59. Certainly, this man was no fraud, for he really had seen our beamships.
60. Many other pilots have encountered our beamships or alien ones as well.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424
Ptaah:
In respect to Kenneth Arnold we have found out through our three-year investigations that he did not observe any extraterrestrial flying objects but secret US test flights of one-winged aircraft.

As you can see stories change and are somewhat contradictory. First Semjase spoke positively about Kenneth Arnold’s sighting being ET spaceships but later on the story changed to classified U.S. airplanes whose speed (clocked by Arnold) hasn’t been replicated since. If the Plejarens are real they seem to be somewhat overconfident in their statements..

Here’s Meier’s story changing regarding the Betty&Barney Hill case.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_37
Meier:
Oh yes, even if I don’t understand the chemical things, your explanation does inform me. But what has happened in the year 1961? This matter is somewhat unknown to me.
Semjase:
Of this i can say: It happened on the 19th of September, in the mountains of New Hampshire in the USA, during the night, when two Earth human beings, by the name of Betty Hill and Barney Hill, a married couple, met with a spaceship of extraterrestrial origin. By oscillation-paralyzers used by the intelligences, their vehicle, an auto, was placed out of function and forced to stop. At the same time both of them were put into a deep hypnosis by telenotical forces. By that their consciousness was paralyzed, by which their conscious recollection was blocked. This I have explained to you before. The purpose of that proceeding by the intelligences was no ill behavior, because their data gathering was only in exploring the Earth human form of life. So they took possession of both Earth human beings for a time of 127 minutes, brought them into their spaceship, and subjected them very thoroughly to their examinations and analyses, while they also took different specimens from both, such as some drops of blood, male sperm, hairs, saliva, finger nails and skin. They took as well, specimens from the shoes and clothing, and from other things too, which were of importance for the analysis of those intelligences. Everything was very carefully examined by them and was recorded radio-photographically.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424
Billy:
Aha. – Then, another question regarding the flights of extraterrestrial spaceships in earth’s air space that numbered 3000 per year according to you. Must one assume that these spaceships only belong to you or your federation? In this regard you have never given an explanation. And what was with Kenneth Arnold, who in the 1940s saw several UFOs while flying in his private airplane, and what about Betty and Barney Hill who were allegedly abducted by aliens, like many others who have talked about contacts and abductions as well as medical examinations etc. while under hypnosis?
Ptaah:…What has to be said in respect to the married couple Hill, and all other persons who were allegedly abducted or even medically harmed, or who supposedly had implants implanted, and who under hypnosis exposed these occurrences is, that these occurrences have never happened, and are nothing but illusions, imagination, delusions and deliberate lies, as well as also schizophrenic illusionary products and disturbances of consciousness brought forth through the interference of electromagnetic fields of the earth, through which unrealities, unreal happenings as well as unreal memories and unreal experiences are caused, but also unreal pain, fear and unreal perceptions and so forth……

Once again the verdict completely changes from truthful to false while ‘the Plejarens’ seemed pretty sure of themselves. Semjase concluded the Betty&Barney Hill case was real as presented while years later her father Ptaah completely discredits the case. Remarkable since Meier wrote one time that the Plejarens didn’t lie. Researching the contact reports one analysis of the Plejarens seems to be completely false…

Billy Meier Vs Other Contactees, The Beginning

One of the first things that caught my attention while researching the Meier case was the treatment of other “contactees” in the contact reports. Having researched a number of contactee cases I realized that some are supported by photographs, films and eyewitness testimonies. I’m not claiming every aspect is true but for some elements in the contactee phenomenon there’s actually some supporting evidence and worth investigating. The highly unusual aspect of the Meier case is that it tries to debunk and discredit those other Contactees at an alarming rate. Practically every high profile case gets dismissed or distorted by Meier, leaving his own information as the sole and correct source of alleged UFO&ET matters. After much contemplation I’ve come to the conclusion that Meier does this deliberately. It’s simply part of his agenda if you will. He can’t tolerate any competition. But lets go to Meier’s contact reports.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_1
Semjase’s Explanations
1. For some time now we have had the urge to contact a human being on Earth who sincerely and concretely wants to help us in our mission.
2. We have often tried to do this before, but the selected human beings were neither knowledgeable nor willing enough, and often lacked sincerity and loyalty as well.
3. But those we could have selected for our endeavours were afraid and remained silent about our coming.
4. They insisted they would be accused of being insane and of lying, and that attempts to harm them might be made through official and foolish human intrigues.
5. Instead, many boastful individuals have appeared who claim to have contact with us and even to have flown in our beamships.
6. But they are nothing but charlatans and frauds who sun themselves in dubious glory and want to profit from it.

So, here we have the first contact report and after a brief introduction Semjase immediately aims her sight at ‘the other contactees!’ Hardly a coincedence considering this is the first offical publication of an alleged contact between an Earth man and alien woman. The world’s problems aren’t discussed. No, alleged false ET contacts and the belief system of Meier and the Pleiadians/Plejarens are the first two things forwarded! Lets go to the second contact note.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_2
Billy
Well, okay, now please tell me one thing: You already have spoken several times of frauds and charlatans who have gone public with their fantastic UFO contact tales, and continue to do so. Can you give me some names?
Semjase
57. Absolutely, but you know most of them by name.
Billy
Nevertheless, please give me at least a few.
Semjase
58. As you wish—with whom should I begin?
Billy
First of all, I would be interested to know about Kenneth Arnold. Am I correct that he was not a fraud?
Semjase
59. Certainly, this man was no fraud, for he really had seen our beamships.
60. Many other pilots have encountered our beamships or alien ones as well.
61. The greatest fraud, however, was the man who called himself Karl Michalek.
62. And on the same level was the man who became world-famous by the name of George Adamski.
63. His so-called colleagues or friends belong in the same category also.
64. This means those around him who pretended having had contact with us.
65. Other names are lesser known, but are of a certain importance because they are frauds: Harushi Tsukamoto, Jerrold Baker, R. O. Schmidt, C. A. Anderson, Angelucci, and many, many more. 

After some ego-boosting and flattery comments towards Meier the discredit campaign goes into full swing and people are named. The second alleged offcial ET communication and again humanities problems aren’t discussed, no it’s those pesky other contactees who seemingly ruin everything. Lets view some other contact reports.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_39
Billy:
It’s alright, Semjase, it’s actually also our fault; we sometimes just don’t think far enough. It probably would have been better if I had tried to get all names of UFO contactees, in order, then, to ask you about the genuineness of the names. In particular, you did, indeed, tell me that Adamski was not a contactee, as well as not Michalek or the South African, Elizabeth Klarer. But recently, I’ve heard of another name, a certain Menkger or Menger or something like that. What about this one?
Semjase:
150. Menger – he is not a contactee.
151. His statements and remarks correspond to a deliberate product of his imagination.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_249
Billy:
What is behind this: Quetzal and Semjase explained to me once that Dan Fry, an American, actually did have contact with extraterrestrials. He is said to have taken photos as well, but he later destroyed them; somebody made forgeries of them and attributed them to Fry. This is supposed to be the reason why none of Dan Fry’s real photos of alien flying objects exist any longer. Even the story about the origin of the extraterrestrials and their accounts was apparently thoroughly distorted. This is what Quetzal told me, but it never appeared in any contact report.
Ptaah:
That is exactly what happened.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
Billy:
Naturally. – But I still have a question: Is it not possible that some things you just mentioned may be responsible for claims made by Ed Walters in America, who also offers photos?
Ptaah:
He is a swindler and a fraud, and his photos are counterfeit. This is an established fact.

Billy:
Thank you. Another question: For his book Geheimsache UFO … (Secret Matter UFO …), Michael Hesemann used a cover photo, taken by a certain Amaury Rivera, that shows an American Air Force F-14 interceptor and a UFO over Puerto Rico. Do you know anything about this?
Ptaah:
Certainly. There is no doubt that trick photography was used with models suspended with fishing lines. We checked into this matter as thoroughly as we did with Ed Walters, whose photos also utilized trick photography. Michael Hesemann is an enthusiastic ufologist but he is, in this respect extremely, almost irresponsibly, gullible. He allows himself to be unusually easily tricked and deceived, and he erroneously believes that he is of extraterrestrial origin. As our very profound investigations have shown, he is a purely Earth-created individual and this may, in part, be the reason for his UFO enthusiasm and the fact that he is so easily deceived.

Billy:
Carlos Diaz, a purported contactee, what do you think of him?
Ptaah:
You pose an illogical question, for I already explained that no human beings on Earth maintain any contacts with extraterrestrial intelligences. Therefore he is a liar, fraud and cheat

As you can see the contact reports are full of dismissive comments directed at other alleged ET contact cases. The ultimate irony here is that Billy Meier is a debunker himself. He’s also quite knowledgable of other UFO/ET cases and it’s no secret he had an interest in the subject before he went public with his own stories. He was part of a UFO group and very telling is that Meier visited George Adamski while he lectured in Switzerland. For me the conclusion is simple; Meier attacks other contactees deliberately in order to bolster his own case.

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In 2014 Glenn Steckling, head of the George Adamski Foundation, released previously unseen footage filmed by the late George Adamski. This particular footage runs from 13:18 till 13:36. The object is dark and oval shaped and starkly contrasted by the blue sky. I came across this video a few years back and the latest footage is remarkably similar to a UFO sighting I had in 1994 and wrote about on this blog in 2010. Makes you wonder what else is still locked up in the vault of the George Adamski Foundation.